July 1, 2007
I’ve been thinking over the last few months as we ran upto the day that England would become smoking-free in public enclosed spaces that this would probably be the most momentous day of my grown-up life, the one thing from this dunya that would actually make a real difference in the quality of our lives, and the lives of our children.
As a health-professional who has a vested interest in getting people to stop smoking, despite the fact that I hold the one who does it not to be committing haram but rather a despised, detested makruh act instead (the minority position), the health and social benefits of the ban are undoubted. Hey, this could be the first step insha’Allah in banning smoking for ever!
But instead of focusing on the smoking ban this great day, the headlines have been stolen by smoking cars, smoking terminals and smoking men - literally. What an utter and complete disaster wa la hawla wa la quwwata illa billah.
The mind would boggle except that we know that there are Muslims in our communities who have become absolutely oblivious to common sense, religious guidance, and divine warning. What else can we possibly do with them? These brothers and sisters, indeed fellow citizens in the main, have lost total control of their senses and religious priorities and seem intent…no, in fact they are intent on absolutely obliterating the Muslim community here in the UK, and no doubt “the West.”
Whilst watching the BBC last night with a Scottish worker describing the actions of one of the terrorists as, “…he clambered out of the car in flames throwing punches all over the place shouting out ‘Alla! Alla! Alla!’ whilst people were trying to help him put out the flames! It was then we realised…” I thought to myself just how many millions of people in this country must think that the word “Allah” is just some huge, sick joke.
Does it even matter whether this is accurate or not? Have no doubt that if it isn’t, there’d be plenty more maniacs to take the terrorist’s place as this is the mindset of those Muslims who have been smoking for far too long and have entered their own cloud-cuckoo-land which they call “Jihad”.
This has clearly gone beyond the madness of the Conspiracy theorists (of the other group of mad-cap Muslims we ‘enjoy’ in our community) dedicated to blaming everything on someone else. This is serious. The Community is in serious danger now from these terrorist lunatics and just how long will the Muslims expect the patience of our fellow non-Muslim citizens to hold? If you don’t like that statement, then you put yourself in the position of a nation that has another religious minority group that it is protecting whilst they launch all sorts of terror attacks on the sovereign state - how long would you hold back for, fearing for the safety of your family? How would you expect the intelligence and security services to respond?
These are difficult times. I advise all those reading this with such sick terror plans and intentions to fear Allah and remember that they will be held accoutable for their actions, even if they might get away with it in this life - smoking in the UK might have stopped for now, but soon it could be our entire community that’ll be going up in flames. And flames in the next life will await those who lit the flames here in the first place.

July 1, 2007 at 7:33 pm
It’s a total disaster what has happened. You’re piece AE is spot on. On the radio, a person was asking where the muslim community leaders are condeming these actions. While we may feel that we do not need to keep apologising for the actions of a few lunatics who claim to be muslim, the fact is that ‘the british public’ want to hear our leaders speaking out against these horrific actions. We really need our leaders to take a lead, get on TV and radio and really disassociate our deen from what these people are trying to do to it. The consequence of a failure to ‘engage’ does not bear thinking about. May Allah SWT protect us.
July 1, 2007 at 8:41 pm
we segregate ourselves too much that’s why people will always need our “leaders” to speak out for us in condemnation.
why not engage with everyone? if someone is a non-Muslim, it isn’t a reason to look down on them….it is only by the Grace of Allah (swt) that we are Muslim.
Muslims don’t teach this properly to their kids. So many children don’t even have “white” friends in this country.
My personal experience….
i had so much less trouble in my life, and was so much happier, when the majority of my friends were non-Muslims.
Just the state of British Muslims maybe?? remember the revert who converted on the basis of the Qur’an and Islamic books? Then he went to Hajj and said (paraphrased)….
“Alhamdulillah that Allah Made me Muslim before I knew the Muslims!”
Wackos act like wackos and will always act like wackos. But people won’t associate you with the wacko, whether he be from the same countyy, same ethnicity, same family even, if they know you…
And people don’t know us because we’re either condescending or we shy ourselves away.
i even read something in Q news about this girl who went to an Islamic school for the frist year of her A-levels, but left for the 2nd year because she felt she was seperated so much from reality - the world we live in; that place called England.
wackos can act like wackos. And the only way we can stop them is to teach them the truth about Islam. And the only way we can stop being associated to us, and protect ourselves, no matter how hard the media try to relate it to us…..
is by knowing people, and letting them know us.
but hey, they’re just the kafir innit?
July 1, 2007 at 9:02 pm
Nice 1 AE but i think there are a couple of issues that need to be raised.
Although what was done was wrong,we need to realise that some muslims are not given the right guidance.when imams are approached regarding “x-files”type issues,brothers are turned away and then they go elsewhere for answers.They tend to fall into the wrong hands,get brainwashed by some misguided beliefs and start “smokin”. The irony is that the very same imams who initially turned them away are the ones who start pointing their fingers at such brothers when events like this take place without realising that when they are pointing,three fingers are actually pointing at themselves.
I think there needs to be a lot more”x-file-ism”
so that as well as issues of aqeedah,tawheed,adab etc are taught, controvercial issues are also cleared up amongst the brothers out there and inshallah events like today are prevented.
Another thing that pops to mind is that the brothers must have genuinely thought that their acts were islamically justified and that they were doing the right thing,and that their acts will lead them to jannah.surely they did not jump into their jeep and think “wot u sayin boys, feel like goin to hell today?” as if it were a trip to wimmy road with the lads.
People start making assumptions that the brothers will definitely go to hell for their acts.They may, they may not, Allah knows best and surely their intention somewhere along the lines may also be checked out.So we need to stop deciding peoples hereafter and leave that to Allah swt.
If i am wrong in any way i ask Allah for his forgiveness and request sincerely to be corrected.
July 1, 2007 at 9:52 pm
You posted this article a couple of years back:
Islam and the Sanctity of Human Life
An analysis of contemporary false ideologies
http://islamiblog.blogspot.com/2005/07/considering-that-it-seems-we-are.html
How about posting the rest of the PDF now, as it is certainly pertinent in view of the circumstances.
July 1, 2007 at 10:48 pm
I don’t think we can discount the amount of “terroist alerts” that turn out to be hoaxes. Need I mention the Brazilian fella or the Bengali brothers in Forest Gate, East London or the hundreds of raids, false arrests and unjust imprisonments? We don’t even know the full story. And even if the media presents one I know I’ll be taking it with a pinch of salt, and that doesn’t make me a conspiracy theorist, it makes me a realist. And Muslim leaders aren’t disassociating themselves and condemning terrorism? Puh-lease, any time a Muslim open his mouth (or has a website) after bismillah he has to utter a dsiclaimer. Let’s keep things in perspective people.
July 1, 2007 at 10:56 pm
salaams A2
I completely agree with you. Why wait for leaders to speak out when we know from experience that whenever anything happens, any leader that has a clue won’t speak out and condemn these atrocities and any leader who is clueless they will have on in a second waffling on about some rubbish that doesn’t do Islam or any Muslim any favour!
You are right, WE need to engage with the non Muslim on a regular basis. People need to get a positive image and the best way to fight off the negativity is to be the best in manners according to the Qur’an and Sunnah.
Everytime you speak with a non Muslim they should be left with a positive impression and we should make it our individual responsibility to do this.
Take it as a Dawah exercise or however you think best but people will not know about our deen unless we go out there and speak to others about it.
July 1, 2007 at 11:31 pm
Weekly Study classes:
Shaykh Kehlan al-Juboori
Subject: Tafsīr al-Qur’ān and Sharh Subul’l-Salām
Time: 7.45pm every Saturday
Location: Makki Masjid, 125 Beresford Rd, Longsight, Manchester
Abu Eesa Niamatullah
Subject: ‘Uddah Sharh ‘Umdat’l-Fiqh
Time: After Maghrib Salāh every Wednesday
Location: Cheadle Mosque, 416 Wilsmlow Rd, Heald Green, Cheadle, Cheshire.
Subject: Sharh al-Adab al-Mufrad
Time: 8pm every Friday
Location: Makki Masjid, 125 Beresford Rd, Longsight, Manchester.
Prophetic Guidance
July 2, 2007 at 12:20 am
It beggars belief that some idiot person could have done something so blatantly stupid’ but I don’t think that your comments will be read by the people you intend to reach with your little rant’s don’t mean that in a rude way’ but there are lots of holes in your estimation of these folk’s I don’t think that they are smokers’ I wouldn’t insult smoker’s with such idiot and total waste of time operations’ I say what many non Muslims say that is ‘if the security services were really on the ball like how they keep telling us they are! this thing wouldn’t have got off the ground in the first place’’ which means that people like john reed are just full of wind and piss like so many politicians and just threatening people only winds people up the wrong way’ like when bush said in Iraq bring them on!
When it comes to matters of security’ don’t play’ second Muslims must deserve the things they have coming to them because the general understanding of youth is one of these kuffar! Without pointing out which kuffar! Who is the enemy? also since British troops can hardly discriminate between shia and Sunni, Muslim and Taliban and northern alliances, and given that they mercilessly have been “reportedly torturing murdering with impunity and this is reported by human rights groups” ‘it’s surly going to be the case that Muslims are going to go off the rails’ in thinking that if they can kill with impunity well if it’s alright for them to do it then it’s ok for us! What they’re doing is fair game’ and unlike you Abu essa who has been blessed to be with those who have understanding Alhamdulillah…..
But also consider this’ it’s known and proven that in order to perpetuate a myth and promote a cause or a goal or and its objective then governments have in the past exploited such groups’ and thinking and conducted operations called “false flag operations” not conspiracy theories as you like to call them! But has been proven method of conduct since politics was invented were by people’s minds are controlled by events designed for maximum effect order to effect change.’ as the’ times news paper having just reported how British agents helped the ira blow up their own British soldiers s check points in order to help the political change in Ireland to favor the British’ since the ongoing crisis in the middle east is bigger than the IRA and so much to gain from its economical and political out come and my country as ‘tony Blair has pointed out already is a ‘major player’! Who are prepared to go to war and fight wars! As you know when you are at war all is fair! There are no Queensberry rules when the gloves come off
Now we know the majority of Muslims haven’t the time or capacity to understand the world of politics most people are just into working and bringing home the bread’ judging by the youth in my neighborhood they just haven’t a clue about anything’ nobody gives a toss what they are thinking or even doing ’ quite frankly they haven’t got role models or even parents that care that much about anything’ except money ‘everyone of them is a disaster waiting to happen’ but the public do have a right and has every reason to dislike us’ for our lack of understanding about the principle things in society like respect for other’s people’s right’s property or law and order they piss and moan about things are be hard but the hell fire will be much harder for them’ only most people from our so called Muslim communities are just into taking and not giving ’ but quite frankly having met so many insincere people it’s hard to imagine why god hasn’t destroyed us already if that be the case, having said all this there are many good people out there in the community that need to get involved with their children and change the situation…….sorry for going on with myself but the bottom line is we brought everything bad to ourselves and every good is from Allah’s mercy even thought we are not deserving
July 2, 2007 at 1:25 am
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July 2, 2007 at 5:08 am
subhan allah
what the hell is wrong with these people??
i’m actually seriously scared of them kicking us out of this country. is this what these terrorists want? that we all leave this country and go back to the so-called muslim countries? what? so that my brother has to shave his beard off so he has a chance of getting a job in one of those countries? absolutely disgusting. may Allah save us, ameen.
July 2, 2007 at 9:34 am
Assalamualaikum
I agree with Abu Eesa - what a terrible weekend!
Alhamdulilah there are many muslim blog sites that are posting excellent pieces up about this - like the one above.
Check out ummahpulse.co.uk for a couple of more responses
http://ummahpulse.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=141&Itemid=37
http://ummahpulse.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=140&Itemid=37
Wassalam
Karima
p.s Old Man Kactuz - I am not sure where to start with you - perhaps try reading literature on Islam that is written by Muslims and not by orientalists. Other than that - just keep taking the tablets….
July 2, 2007 at 11:10 am
salam Abu E: in reference to the adab of sisters at the classes, would it be possible for you to do a short reminder on what exactly is the adab for sitting in a dars, i don’t think people are really aware of it(e.g. never talking whilst ustath talks, keep small children out, don’t lean against walls, arrive preferably before the ustath arrives etc. etc.)
July 2, 2007 at 2:47 pm
intresting
July 2, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Abu Eesa, could you please elaborate on tadlees? It’s quite a tricky concept to grasp. I WAS listening when you explained it, just didn’t understand it properly. JazakAllah khair.
July 2, 2007 at 4:29 pm
AE,can u respond to what john kactuz is sayin, and ENGAGE with him please
July 2, 2007 at 5:31 pm
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July 2, 2007 at 5:49 pm
Please except my apologies for using the p*** word I was told by my wife it was rude’ that was not my intention. It was a word used quite Please except my apologies for using the p*** word I was told by my wife it was rude’ that was not my intention. It was a word used quite a lot in old English not so much now but enjoying a revival. Very big sorry! I don’t think that people will be getting kicked out just yet but it did cross my mind that there are a few people who may need to be kicked out being as much use to Islam as a chocolate teapot…. But having said that I bet my kids would just love a chocolate teapot’ I bet Abu Essa would love a chocolate teapot…! Kuctuz I don’t mind answering any of your questions regarding the Quran or Christianity or even Judaism if you are sincerely interested in a reply my email address is idriss_smith@hotmail.com
July 2, 2007 at 8:02 pm
in response to the sister who feels upset about small children having been present during adab classes…as she may not be aware..this is not usually the case as a separate room is provided for mothers and young children however since the equipment was stolen the weekend before we were asked to come downstairs as we were unable to hear from our usual room…hope you can be patient with us and our and children until the equipment is replaced..or would you prefer we didn’t attend at all????
as for leaning against the walls…what is the problem with this???perhaps there are some who are pregnant or infirm (so it helps them to lean against the walls)….
re: late attendance..this has been mentioned so many times before…i guess we dont know what’s in people’s hearts at the end of the day and as to why they are late..perhaps they have good reason, we dont know–better late than not attending at all!!
July 2, 2007 at 8:43 pm
Kactuz please sit down and contemplate what your ultimately trying to achieve (with these comments)? Is your ultimate goal worth spending your life on?
Use your time wisely to search for the truth with an open mind, for the open mind opens the heart, and the heart is the best recepient for guidance.
Know your creator and what is beloved to him…
July 2, 2007 at 8:47 pm
i was just mentioning some general adab which have been mentioned by ulema. they are just general rules,; there will always be exceptions. im sorry i didnt mean to start an argument or anything. may allah forgive us, ameen.
July 2, 2007 at 10:05 pm
JOHN KACTUZ,
I’m going to be very basic about this:
Go to the ‘source’ for information. Buy a Qur’an in English from a MUSLIM Bookshop. And buy authentic Hadith i.e. ‘Sahih Bukhari’ from a MUSLIM bookshop. READ THE ACTUAL MATERIAL THAT WE READ IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND US and thereafter ask us questions do not conclude.
Our religion does not sanction such actions that we see on the news, or the ones that you claim. The World is a complex political arena and people take ‘individual’ actions on their own accord; and these are not sanctioned by our religion at all. After all there are over 1 billion Muslims, so why isn’t everyone doing it.
ALSO:
-How can you accept the misguided actions of the few to be representative of over a billion people?
-Why do you want to believe people that set themselves on fire?
-Why don’t you want to believe the MAJORITY of Muslims that live ordinary peaceful lives who will tell you that such actions are completely wrong and against the principles of Islam?
I think you need to reflect on your inner-self a little.
I think you have taken a leap out of your own common sense. I’m sure that if you read the TRUE LITERATURE and converse with mainstream Muslims, all of your comments and the ones that you’ve read from orientalists will prove to be unfounded.
Do not read the works of orientalists; because their objective is to re-write Islam in order to strengthen Secular ideals. They do this to alot of religions.
Our Prophet (May Peace and Blessings be Upon Him - PBUH) did NOT commit any brutality or torture, nor did His Companions, nor did the Pious Saints after them. In fact The Prophet (PBUH) was forgiving and just, to the actual surprise of the non-Muslims, who began to flock to Islam upon observing this. You need to read authentic books.
Do not approach a subject with one viewpoint or a narrow perception from what you’ve read… I expect ‘plebs’ to do that. And please do not take any Verse from the Qur’an out of context, read the entire Chapter and Part in which the Verse exists.
I could write forever about this, but I’m getting tired of correcting people with unfounded views…
I’m sure you would take offence to anyone reading your literature then taking bits out of context to suit their bias and/or prejudice.
Open your mind….
July 2, 2007 at 10:22 pm
() the response of the muslim community()
July 2, 2007 at 10:27 pm
GGreat post. I’ve linked to it on my blog along with A’s comment as it summed up my ffeelings perfectly.
July 3, 2007 at 2:20 am
Very naive of you all, Westernized Muslims, to believe the media of the kuffar with every bit of news they throw at you!!!
Allah commands you to verify any news brought to you by a FASIQ MUSLIM, but you chose the other way around, to believe original kafirs’ news and do so without even verifying (or having the means to do that):
{O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient [Arabic: fasiq] one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful} (49:6).
All those of you who pick up the news blindly and spread it around as facts..are naive, idiots, and extremely gullible!
And just like you accuse these jihadists of ignorance about Islam, you are also ignorants about the enemies of Islam, and it is through the ranks of your likes that Islam was corrupted throughout the centuries, in thought and practice, until we reach the low pit we’re in now. Both you and the jihadists are defaming and corrupting Islam!
July 3, 2007 at 11:28 am
Says Hussam who accused and insulted all us “westernised” Muslims.
My apologies, i forgot it was haraam to live in the “West” (!)
How about this for a compromise…you go and check for yourself, next time someone bombs the underground or drives into the airport, and see if it did ACTUALLY happen, and then let us know! And then, it’ll be perfectly fine to believe you, ‘coz your a Muslim which automatically means your word is stronger and better than anyone else’s…I mean….nowadays Muslims don’t lie at all ‘coz they’re perfect….and that’s why our “Eastern” Muslim countries are functioning so great under leaders who never tell lies, with people blossoming academically and economically, socially and in Deen…
The sad thing is it is more likely that the news of the “Muslim” countries contains more fairytales than the news of the “Western” countries.
And next time you quote the Qur’an how about actually reading it? To insult another Muslim….
July 3, 2007 at 1:26 pm
Abu Esa, aren’t you the same brother who wrote that beautiful article “A Reminder to the Sinful, Glad Tidings to the Honourable”?
An article that explained why desperate Chechens carried out attacks on Russia?
http://www.myiwc.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2859.html
“And so we believe that the aims of the Noble brothers and sisters were not to kill but to try and save the lives of people, the lives of those who are described by Allâh as the weak and oppressed who call for someone to save them.”
IF this media hype is true, you have Middle eastern Muslims carrying out these desperate actions. Muslims who, perhaps, acted with the intention of answering the call of the Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, who are under the vile heel of the UK occupying forces.
“Qur’an 4:75-76 Surah An-Nisaa (The Women)
And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who being weak are ill-treated (and oppressed)? Men women and children whose cry is: “Our Lord! rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from Thee one who will protect; and raise for us from Thee one who will help!”
Why is it condemned by you? Because you live here and it is politically incorrect to speak out?
July 3, 2007 at 5:28 pm
i dont see how the situation in chechnya can be compared to the uk?????????????
July 3, 2007 at 6:22 pm
lol i agree they are incomparable, totally!
July 3, 2007 at 6:33 pm
for JOHN KACTUZ
you are precisely the reason why we need to engage.
you obviously have a very one sided view of Islam and many misconceptions.
I do not know for what reasons you feel like this or why but it is our failure to have not rid these misinterpretations for the very reason I stated before which is we need to converse, we need to sit together so that people can gain a true understanding of Islam.
I do not have to repeat what brother Khalid has pointed out but would like to add that please do read a good translation of the Qur’an with an open heart and mind.
July 3, 2007 at 6:46 pm
As-Salaamu ‘alaikum,
Please don’t anybody try to discuss matters with “John Kactuz”. Just a couple of sentences in and he’s attacking the Prophet, sall’ Allahu ‘alaihi wa sallam. What does that say about his mentality?
He is brain dead. Ignore his garbage. I always delete his comments without letting them appear on my blog, and I suggest that other bloggers (are you reading this, Abu Eesa?) do the same.
July 3, 2007 at 8:50 pm
Wa ‘alaykum salam
Apologies for the delay but it’s been a busy week. Let me respond to a few things here and then allow me to address a few further issues in my next post insha’Allah.
A2: why not engage with everyone?
Anyone living in this country who isn’t doing this already has some serious problems – indeed, how a person can live his life without interacting with ones neighbours, ones work colleagues and just the general public is unfathomable and such a person could be rightly seen as a sociopath - we’ve seen that the mentality of killing random innocent people bears all the hall-marks of insane sociopathic people.
Also, as my teacher once told me, when ones children and family are killed and one turns sociopathic in that one responds in kind to someone else out of anger and revenge, then although we may understand that reaction, it can never be justifiable. It is either very sad depending upon circumstances (such as Chechnya) or just incredibly stupid such as foreigners or even worse, locals, killing innocent bystanders going on holiday at the airport or killing commuters on their way to work on the Tube.
Anyway, I’m just stating the obvious here so let’s move on.
Fraaz: I think there needs to be a lot more ”x-file-ism”
As you might have noticed last week, that’s all we dealt with right? Jihad, terrorism, citizenship etc. And likewise, this week’s questions are of a similar nature and we’ll be spending the entire session answering nothing but questions insha’Allah.
Fraaz: People start making assumptions that the brothers will definitely go to hell for their acts.
I don’t deal with intentions. That’s for Allah to deal with. I deal with rulings on apparent actions and the final decision is for Him alone. The ruling of someone who kills another without right, is the hell-fire. If Allah wishes, He will eventually forgive him. If Allah decrees otherwise, then some of the scholars would have been proved right in the position they held that the one who takes another soul without right will be in the hellfire forever. The evidences concerning this are numerous, yet this is an issue which doesn’t require an evidence – rather it is something which is known in this religion by necessity. This is something we were taught when we were at the beginning of our studies and is something that I was reminded of by my teacher just the other day, by a sanad stretching back to ‘Amr al-Ma‘di Karb (r).
Hence, those who believe it permissible to intentionally kill innocent civilians indiscriminately are not following Islam but another religion. I have no idea what that religion is called either. And yes, you can quote me on that.
Fraaz: Another thing that pops to mind is that the brothers must have genuinely thought that their acts were islamically justified
This is irrelevant. No-one in their right mind would take a decision by their own selves in another field of life such as finance, or health or work etc so why when it comes to Islam? Why did their methodology not allow them to take advice, or seek clarification from the people of knowledge? What stopped these people studying the religion as it should?! This religion doesn’t allow people just to go and do what they think is justified. Simple as that. They took a risk and now they’ll have to pay for that risk in this life and maybe the Hereafter and we can only ask Allah for His ‘afiyah.
Fulaan: http://islamiblog.blogspot.com/2005/07/considering-that-it-seems-we-are.html
How about posting the rest of the PDF now, as it is certainly pertinent in view of the circumstances.
Actually brother, I don’t know where my original document is. After I edited it, I submitted it to the team who released it as a book (they are linked to the Kuwaiti Government, “Turath al-Islami”). I haven’t seen or heard of it since a few years back and maybe that’s not so bad after all as it is very technical and goes right over the head of most readers because they don’t wish to read it in context. Anyway, I’m happy because I got sent a copy of the Kuwaiti Govt. Fiqh Encyclopeadia the other day by the same publishers and its ruddy marvellous.
PS: if you want to have a real “chuckle”, look at the comments on that old 2005 post (ignore Idris’s name because I’m trying to protect him
) and see all the people who were insistent that this was all a conspiracy, and all a blag, and all a set-up and all the rest of it…and then look at them now. How embarrassing.
Idris:
Well, what can I say. Actually, I won’t say anything too harsh despite the fact that you are almost completely wrong in everything you write, you’re still from the early Badriyeen and you made Hijrah to Allah before I was even practising, so maybe Allah has forgiven you already…
As for chocolate teapots, then that’s just not fair playing on my desires like that…
John Kactuz:
I’m glad that I’ve just read what Yusuf has just written as I was just about to reply to you. And I’d much rather trust him than you. Sorry.
Me: do a short reminder on what exactly is the adab for stting in a dars
Maybe. I did this last week but I might repeat it if I get the time. If not, then here is a summary: respect sacred knowledge, respect your teachers and respect the house of Allah. That should be enough. If you think that such respect means slouching on the wall, speaking when hadith are being explained and ayāt are being recited, and that it doesn’t matter that His House jalla wa ‘ala is treated like a youth club, then do as you wish and good luck to you all.
Saabirah: Can you please elaborate on tadlees?
Insha’Allah maybe some other time if you don’t mind.
Me2: as for leaning against the walls…what is the problem with this???
Don’t mix between those who have an excuse (such as the ill and old) and those who just want an excuse…
Hussam:
Easy tiger.
Umm: Abu Esa, aren’t you the same brother who wrote that beautiful article “A Reminder to the Sinful, Glad Tidings to the Honourable”?
The very same.
I’m glad that you liked it sister, and I agree with every single word now that I wrote then. I hope that you can see and understand the huge difference between the two situations and if you can’t, then send me your email address and I’ll explain. Maybe I might even write something on the blog if I get the time.
In summary: I believe that what they did was not permissible as I stated then and I also believe that they didn’t intend to kill anyone, rather it was the Russian criminals who went in full force with little intention of saving the lives of their own citizens. I was saddened by the way that they had been pushed into such desperation and understood it, even though it was not justifiable as such. And Allah knows best.
Here, in a land of peace, or even ‘ahd if you like, a tiny minority hasn’t given anyone a chance to do anything but to either be killed or maimed or just be lucky. This is terrorism of the highest order and it actually bores me now to go into this again.
Jihad is Jihad and will always be so until the Final Day, whether we sell out or not, whether we stand for justice or not, whether we are lucky to witness it ourselves in our lives or not. But as someone said, “Terrorism is to Jihad what Adultery is to Marriage”.
And that’s the God’s truth right there.
July 3, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Assalaamu Alaikum Abu Esa,
I apologise for assuming that you were retracting your article. I hope you will forgive me insha’Allah. Recently, so many brothers are pushing the “turn the other cheek” opinion.
“I was saddened by the way that they had been pushed into such desperation and understood it, even though it was not justifiable as such. And Allah knows best.”
Yes, it was v tragic. May Allah accept them as shuhadaa, ameen.
I personally am not condoning what happened over the weekend, IF Muslims did it, but I don’t think Muslims were responsible. I mean, come on, 3/3 failure rate, even Homer Simpson wouldn’t score so bad
I don’t normally go for conspiracy theories, but at the end of the day, all we know for sure, is that there was a man burning who crashed into the airport. The intelligence services themselves could have planted something in his car.
Why attempt something for the 3rd time, if your previous 2 attempts have failed? And when security is heightened to?
However, IF Muslims did it, then I blame Blair, not them, for them feeling that such acts of terror are the only option left.
wa-salaam,
Umm.
P.S. I have added my email address, if you wish to discuss the difference in situation in your own time insha’Allah.
July 4, 2007 at 3:08 am
This isn’t related to this post…but i had question regarding the series about Imam Bukhari’s Book …
Does RadiyAllahu Anhum
July 4, 2007 at 3:09 am
sorry…i dont think the question showed up..Does RadiyAllahu Anhum apply only to the sahabahs as in saying it after the name…or can it be applied to others..i s there a difference of opinion
July 4, 2007 at 6:54 am
Assalamualaikum
The ‘greatest day of my life - not’ became even worse when it seemed that the media was constantly interviewing that joker Hassan Butt. Every channel I turned to he seemed to be on! Then I shut off the TV and turned on the radio - but guess what - there he was on Radio 4. He has made some terrible allegations about Islam. On ummahpulse we have tried to deal with some of these. I hope you can find some time to have a look at the article.
http://ummahpulse.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=145&Itemid=37
July 4, 2007 at 10:40 am
Fulaan: http://islamiblog.blogspot.com/2005/07/considering-that-it-seems-we-are.html
How about posting the rest of the PDF now, as it is certainly pertinent in view of the circumstances.
Is this article by the same Sh.fasial Jasim from kuwait that is coming to luton end of August inshallah, see website (www.calltoislam.com) for details?
July 4, 2007 at 11:29 am
i mean on a deeper level than “hi bye”
and the problem is people really are keeping away from people of different races/religions as much as poss
hence burnley, bradford etc
July 4, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Apparently many of you brothers and sisters have forgotten about “al-walaa wal-baraa,” and are trying to please the kuffar.
How can any of you “Muslims” condemn these latest operations done by the Muslim brothers, or any so-called “terror” operations done by Muslims, as the UK and other kaafir nations are considered Dar al-Harb? Do the mujahedeen not have a right to do what they are doing? Indeed, Allah tells us to “terrorize” the kuffar.
The real shuyukh, as opposed to the tawghout, puppet, “shuyukh,” don’t condemn these mujahedeen or say that any of these operations are “haraam” in any way. Are the so-called Muslims and hypocrites going to deny what Allah says in the Qur’an?
[008:060] And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war (tanks, planes, missiles, artillery, etc.) to threaten the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides whom, you may not know but whom Allah does know. And whatever you shall spend in the Cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you, and you shall not be treated unjustly.
[016:126] And if you punish (your enemy, O you believers in the Oneness of Allah), then punish them with the like of that with which you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, verily, it is better for As-Sabirin (the patient ones, etc.).
[042:041] And indeed whosoever takes revenge after he has suffered wrong, for such there is no way (of blame) against them. [042:042] The way (of blame) is only against those who oppress men and wrongly rebel in the earth, for such there will be a painful torment.
[003:140] If a wound (and killing) has touched you, be sure a similar wound (and killing) has touched the others. And so are the days (good and not so good), We give to men by turns, that Allah may test those who believe, and that He may take martyrs from among you. And Allah likes not the Zalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers).
[009:029] Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
[002:193] And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah) and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allah (Alone). But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimoon (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)
July 4, 2007 at 5:30 pm
oh please not another nutter.
July 4, 2007 at 6:30 pm
Look Mr Anonymous,
Firstly, why are you ‘Anonymous’? For all we care, you could be a non-Muslim transgressor yourself. Actually, either way … you sound like a transgressor, Muslim or Non-Muslim.
All I can say is look up the RULES of War in Islam, and in there you will see that civilians CANNOT be targeted or killed, NOR can a person kill him/herself…
Do you think Allah (swt) will actually help people that do this ? Think about it, the guys that drove the jeep into an airport entrance, got nothing but third degree burns and disfigurement for the rest of their life!!! What a pair of Baboons !!!
If they were really intent on Martyrdom, why did they get out of the vehicle?? Why did he not stay in there! Did reality hit them, when they actually felt the flames burn their skin??? Did they decide to kill civilians (mothers, sons, daughters, brothers, fathers of other Non-Muslim and Muslim families) but were unwilling to die themselves?? Did it dawn on them in a split second that actually, what the hell are we doing, this is wrong??
Would people continue to support these Jaahils; if their own Sons, Daughters, Mothers, Fathers and Brothers were killed ???!!! Would they jump up and down in joy then ??? I think not !! So Mr Anonymous, shut your trap, read some Qur’an, Hadith AND Seerah and ISLAMIC rules of war !
I have a problem with people taking verses out of context… Do not become ’self-taught scholars’ that create Sunnah’s of your own!
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE, FOLLOW ISLAM PROPERLY!
July 4, 2007 at 8:19 pm
Asaalaamu’alaykum
Just came across this video which I felt I should share with you all given the recent events:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfCk6EcqprM
July 4, 2007 at 11:00 pm
As salamu alaykum wa rahmatullah Abu Eesa,
just wondering whether you know of any good pieces that explain this whole misunderstood phenomenon for non-muslims..wa jazakumAllahu khairan
July 4, 2007 at 11:29 pm
Aslaamolaikum, hope everyone is well.
I haven’t read everybodies comments because i would be here for hours, however i did ’skim’ through a few of them and I just wanted to add my personel thoughts about the recent ‘terror plots’.
I don’t have too much to say to be honest i think its best to wait and see what the media actually reports over the next few days. However i think we can all say whoever has plotted this are terrorists because of their attempts to indiscrimatively attack civilians.. But weather the terrorists are Muslims or not is a completely different issue, and one i personally choose not to accept just yet.
The reason i find it hard to believe that certain people like to carry our such actions are the benefits to them are very small, and the only ones to achieve great benefit through the actions are the government.
Because such actions are used to instil fear into the people ‘through the media’ and therefore making it easy to control them…
A better way to understand the theory would be to watch some “Noam Chomsky” videos on youtube, you will understand what i mean. One of the the examples he gives is the US and its media coverage before Iraq was attacked.. eg, when Condeleeza made comments such as “the next time hear from Saddam there will be a mushroom crowd over Washington”… these tactics were used to basically decieve the population and scare them into believing pre-emptive attacks were necessary.
What im trying to say is the media isn’t as free as it seems and most of it is controlled by large corporations etc and they control their viewers without them percieving through their words etc.. But anyways enough on of the theories..
We obviously also have the other side of the story, which is there are extremeists out there who have some crazy kind of thoughts about how to achieve peace.
Anyways that all
Wa’Salaam
July 4, 2007 at 11:32 pm
Aslaamolaikum, hope everyone is well.
I haven’t read everybodies comments because i would be here for hours, however i did ’skim’ through a few of them and I just wanted to add my personel thoughts about the recent ‘terror plots’.
I don’t have too much to say to be honest i think its best to wait and see what the media actually reports over the next few days. However i think we can all say whoever has plotted this are terrorists because of their attempts to indiscrimatively attack civilians.. But weather the terrorists are Muslims or not is a completely different issue, and one i personally choose not to accept just yet.
The reason i find it hard to believe that certain people like to carry our such actions are the benefits to them are very small, and the only ones to achieve great benefit through the actions are the government. Because such actions are used to instil fear into the people ‘through the media’ and therefore making it easy to control them…
A better way to understand the theory would be to watch some “Noam Chomsky” videos on youtube, you will understand what i mean. One of the the examples he gives is the US and its media coverage before Iraq was attacked.. eg, when Condeleeza made comments such as “the next time hear from Saddam there will be a mushroom crowd over Washington”… these tactics were used to basically decieve the population and scare them into believing a pre-emptive attacks were necessary.
What im trying to say is the media isn’t as free as it seems and most of it is controlled by large corporations etc and they control their viewers without them percieving through their words and bias views which seem two-sided.. But anyways enough on of the theories..
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We obviously also have the other side of the story, which is there are extremeists out there who have some kind of crazy thoughts about how to achieve peace.
Anyways thats all
Wa’Salaam
July 4, 2007 at 11:36 pm
Salaam,
Sorry Abu Eesa could you please remove the anonymous posting of mine above.. Jazakh’Allah Khair
and i thought this was a good article and its also a very good blog.
http://fanonite.org/2007/07/04/muslim-but-not-guilty/
Wa’Salaam
July 8, 2007 at 12:50 am
salaamalaykum Thank you for forgiving me….inshallah I seek Allah’s forgiveness for myself and you also’ and may I say criticism is never a bad thing when it’s constructive’ and I’d like to think we can we all learn something from these events’ because fitnah has benefit and a purpose in that it causes us to focus on our deen and is a cause for us to turn to Allah more for help and guidance from that which we can’t see or even understand and Allah knows best ……completely wrong…..? Really….. Oh my days ……!
July 8, 2007 at 12:21 pm
Wa ‘alaykum salam
Well…maybe not completely wrong in everything…
As for the statement “Radhy Allahu ‘anhum”: this is legislated by Allah in His Book for the Companions and thus we should say it for them as the Ummah has agreed upon. As for its use for other scholars/awliya’ then that is permissible as a form of du’a for that person and his/her special status or position with respect to the Ummah at large as long as one doesn’t insist that it is fully legislated for that person and abuse the term.
And Allah knows best.
July 11, 2007 at 10:19 am
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