23rd Apr, 2007

Moderate in the Extreme

A while back I wrote on my Houston Chronicle blog about whether or not Islam can be “reformed.” The post was written for non-Muslim readers, and in it I argued that Islam cannot change along the lines of the Protestant Reformation. I met with harsh criticism from some self-described proponents of liberal thought, who accused me of being fundamentalist, which they saw as unyielding and unfair. Because Christianity has been “reformed” and Judaism has been “reformed,” these readers felt that I was being inappropriately rigid by adhering to the guidelines of my faith.

They cited so-called progressive Muslims as proof that Islam can be modified to suit the modern western world. There’s a tremendous irony in this which is lost on them. They deem themselves liberal by virtue of their insistence on empirical evidence and fluidity of law and morality as it changes to “fit the times.” Their religion is the here and now and they therefore deem themselves generous and open-minded. In fact their world view is quite closed-minded and intolerant. They reject a bigger picture of the universe, one that allows an understanding that the world is greater than that which our senses can behold. Because my faith allows for miracles and divinity I am in fact more open-minded than those who accuse me of repression and intolerance.

A column by Sr. Asma Khalid (appended below), a Cambridge University student, does a good job of reflecting on how that irony plays out in the sphere of public thought. She notes how many Americans and Europeans demand to hear the voice of “moderate” Muslims, yet don’t recognize what a true moderate Muslim is. When they see a Muslim who walks the straight path they call him orthodox. She notes:

“The public relations drive for “moderate Islam” is injurious to the entire international community. It may provisionally ease the pain when so-called Islamic extremists strike. But it really creates deeper wounds that will require thicker bandages because it indirectly labels the entire religion of Islam as violent.”

Daniel Pipes is an avid fan of so-called moderate Islam. He insists on the idea that a moderate movement is out there just waiting to break free of their unfriendly brethren and join the world of watered-down and secularized religion. The truth is that he does just what Sr. Asma notes - by lauding the moderate Muslim, he paints Islam as dark and evil. Such opinions are dangerous stuff of which we must be mindful. Enjoy the article.


Christian Science Monitor
Why I am not a moderate Muslim By Asma Khalid
I’d rather be considered ‘orthodox’ than ‘moderate.’ True orthodoxy is simply the attempt to piously adhere to a religion’s tenets.

Last month, three Muslim men were arrested in Britain in connection with the London bombings of July 2005. In light of such situations, a number of non-Muslims and Muslims alike yearn for “moderate,” peace-loving Muslims to speak out against the violent acts sometimes perpetrated in the name of Islam. And to avoid association with terrorism, some Muslims adopt a “moderate” label to describe themselves.I am a Muslim who embraces peace. But, if we must attach stereotypical tags, I’d rather be considered “orthodox” than “moderate.”

“Moderate” implies that Muslims who are more orthodox are somehow backward and violent. And in our current cultural climate, progress and peace are restricted to “moderate” Muslims. To be a “moderate” Muslim is to be a “good,” malleable Muslim in the eyes of Western society.

I recently attended a debate about Western liberalism and Islam at the University of Cambridge where I’m pursuing my master’s degree. I expected debaters on one side to present a bigoted laundry list of complaints against Islam and its alleged incompatibility with liberalism, and they did.

But what was more disturbing was that those on the other side, in theory supported the harmony of Islam and Western liberalism, but they based their argument on spurious terms. While these debaters – including a former top government official and a Nobel peace prize winner – were well-intentioned, they in fact wrought more harm than good. Through implied references to moderate Muslims, they offered a simplistic, paternalistic discourse that suggested Muslims would one day catch up with Western civilization.

In the aftermath of September 11, much has been said about the need for “moderate Muslims.” But to be a “moderate” Muslim also implies that Osama bin Laden and Co. must represent the pinnacle of orthodoxy; that a criterion of orthodox Islam somehow inherently entails violence; and, consequently, that if I espouse peace, I am not adhering to my full religious duties.

I refuse to live as a “moderate” Muslim if its side effect is an unintentional admission that suicide bombing is a religious obligation for the orthodox faithful. True orthodoxy is simply the attempt to adhere piously to a religion’s tenets.

The public relations drive for “moderate Islam” is injurious to the entire international community. It may provisionally ease the pain when so-called Islamic extremists strike. But it really creates deeper wounds that will require thicker bandages because it indirectly labels the entire religion of Islam as violent.

The term moderate Muslim is actually a redundancy. In the Islamic tradition, the concept of the “middle way” is central. Muslims believe that Islam is a path of intrinsic moderation, wasatiyya. This concept is the namesake of a British Muslim grass-roots organization, the Radical Middle Way. It is an initiative to counter Islam’s violent reputation with factual scholarship.

This was demonstrated through a day-long conference that the organization sponsored in February. The best speaker of the night was Abdallah bin Bayyah, an elderly Mauritanian sheikh dressed all in traditional white Arab garb, offset by a long gray beard.

The words coming out of the sheikh’s mouth – all in Arabic – were remarkably progressive. He confronted inaccurate assumptions about Islam, spoke of tolerance, and told fellow Muslims an un­pleasant truth: “Perhaps much of this current crisis springs from us,” he said, kindly admonishing them. He chastised Muslims for inadequately explaining their beliefs, thereby letting other, illiberal voices speak for them.

I was shocked by his blunt though nuanced analysis, given his traditional, religious appearance. And then I was troubled by my shock. To what extent had I, a hijabi Muslim woman studying Middle Eastern/Islamic studies, internalized the untruthful representations of my own fellow Muslims? For far too long, I had been fed a false snapshot of what Islamic orthodoxy really means.

The sheikh continued, challenging Mr. bin Laden’s violent interpretation of jihad, citing Koranic verses and prophetic narrations. He referred to jihad as any “good action” and recounted a recent conversation with a non-Muslim lawyer who asked if electing a respectable official would be considered jihad. The sheikh answered “yes” because voting for someone who supports the truth and upholds justice is a good action.

The sheikh, not bin Laden, is a depiction of true Islamic orthodoxy. The sheikh, not bin Laden, is the man trained in Islamic jurisprudence. The sheikh, not bin Laden, is the authentic religious scholar. But to call him a moderate Muslim would be a misnomer.

Asma Khalid is pursuing her master’s degree in Middle Eastern/Islamic studies at the University of Cambridge in England.

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ASA, Interestingly and co-incidentally, this entry fits in quite well with the lecture by Sh. Yasir on ‘Progress with Progressives’.

I love Dr. M’s twisting of the word to a more appropriate ‘pro-regressive’. Really, what it implies is a regression in Islam. Regressing it to the level of faiths before us that had been undone by the hand of man. And now we have our own who wish to rewrite Islam.

To claim to ‘reform’ what is perfect can mean only one of two things: either (a) the reformation is a farce or (b) the perfection is a farce. For Muslims (b) is tantamount to disbelief, which really leaves us to choice (a).

As salaamu alaikum,

Great points mentioned in your analysis and the article. May Allah reward you for sharing sister Ruth! :)

“They reject a bigger picture of the universe, one that allows an understanding that the world is greater than that which our senses can behold. Because my faith allows for miracles and divinity I am in fact more open-minded than those who accuse me of repression and intolerance.”

So true!

May Allah guide us all, ameen.

The Qur’aan itself states that true Muslims are the components of a justly balanced nation. translates the ayaah (2:143) as “a middle nation.” It’s kind of absurd to claim that Islaam needs reform when it’s criterion itself states that the religion was and is perfected by an omniscient and omnipotent God!

The progressive Muslims of today claim to harbour a perspective that extends beyond literalism. Actually, they see the literalists as rejecting the bigger picture by strictly adhering to seventh and eighth century thought. These progressive Muslims themselves want to reinterpret Islam to suit their lives today.

“Where are the moderate Muslims?” Many who ask this question know little of Islaam. By moderate, they really mean tolerant and less Islaamic. When beseeching a moderate Muslim, actually, they are demanding compliance. Malleable is the correct word.

And it was Marmaduke Pickthall that translated the ayaah (2:143) as “a middle nation.” I’m in a hurry. Sorry for that. Ma-asalaama.

Asalaamualaikum,
its funny how when they do bring a muslim into the news that usually they are the ones who do not know what they are talking about, I think ive only seen once a knowledgable muslim brother who they aired for maybe 1 min because he was giving them the right answers. And we all remember the guy on sky news.

Two things:

I think extremists when using “moderate” do so because to them there really is not “moderate” Muslims- wasnt it Joe Kaufman who said on record there were no moderate muslims or it could have been Steven Emmerson, either way they are both right wing extremist with their own agenda- to marginalize and delimitimigize the Muslim community.

However, unfortunatly when we go out into the community and listen to everday Americans, they use the terminaology that is put out there by these extremists and filtered through the media. What happens is that these people sincerely believe there is a distinction between good Muslims who are moderate and the “extremists”.

I agree with the sister in her article, I admit I might have fallen into the trap she did on numerous occuasions. But the thing is when I go out into the community and speak to non-Muslims they are shocked and think where are the Muslims like you- and they say I represent “moderate Muslims” when in fact I dont think I represent anything of the sort aside from the American Muslim community.

So its important to look at that aspect- and by doing so we can also take this “reform debate” out of the hands of the idiots who trumpet themselves as “reformers” who ever heard of non-practicing anybody’s trying to reform anything- no I think the conversation needs to be taken out from under them and reframed into how Islam can and has functioned in any society that it has come into contact with that is the core to the reform debate- these extremists believe Islam is not compatible with Western society.

As-salaamu ‘alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatu,

Masha’Allah, a great post on a very relevant subject… so very, very true… far too many of us, I think, have also fallen into that same trap!

Oh God. More on “Islamic Reform”…

(sigh)

For once I agree with you, but only to the extent that Islam cannot change. If it changes, and becomes “moderate,” it isn’t Islam. Islam without the hate and violence isn’t Islam. Also, if you are a Muslim, and you are honest, you must recognize that terror and Islam are not only associated, but linked in the womb. Wasn’t it your prophet that said “I am make victorious with terror”? Didn’t he send out dozens of expeditions to plunder, enslave and murrder? Or maybe the words in the ahadith aren’t clear? Or maybe Muslims preder to ignore these things (and then wonder why Islam is associated with violence).

This old infidel is offended by the hate, violence and oppression that comes from Islam. I am even more offended by the denials and lies from Muslims about their own writings.

Take, for example, the old sheikh mentioned above. The problem is not Muslims “inadequately explaining their beliefs” as he said, but their actions. I don’t really care what the Quran or Muslims say, I want Muslims to stop spreading hate, oppressing others and killing. Is that too much to ask? And oh yes, the word “jihad” means “holy war”. Check out any Muslim site, moderate or otherwise, and you will see the context almost always means “war against unbelievers” (except when explaining the word to stupid infidels).

I would like to offer some advice: Don’t bother to try to counter Islam’s violent reputation with “factual scholarship” because you will lose the argument - the radicals have the Quran and ahadith on their side.

As far as I am concerned, the “radicals” are the ones that kill while the “moderates” make excuses and pretend that these things have nothing to do with Islam.

Well, thats it for today. I spend about 3 hours today reading Tabari, volume 28 - about the man you write ‘pbuh’ after his name. It was one expedition after another. Raids, killing, enslavement and so on. Sure, he did some nice things, but what about the rest? Why did Allah always come through with a new revelation just in time for for the prophet to get… well get what he wanted? Why did Allah grant so many exceptions for his prophet? Isn’t that kind of suspicious?

Asma, there is no hope. I will not give an inch and Muslims will be Muslims. You can, at least, take comfort in the fact that I am not violent. I do not kill, torture, rob and rape, unlike certain people. I do not threaten people and I do not try to silence anybody. Even so, Muslims think people like me should be made to shut up.

What do you think, lady? Does what I have written here offend you? Is it all lies? Do you think I made it up? Do you want me to lie? Do you want a world where people can be silenced for saying what they think? Consider these things.

John kactuz

Mr. John , I never killed anybody , never tortured anybody or I am not a violent and I am a muslim .So, how would u define me?

You may not kill anybody or never be violent but u do have one thing that is u have “hatred “.When a person keeps hatred inside of him , should we call him a great person ?Do u consider urself a great person ?You are preaching something that u don’t even practice by urself !! so pathetic !!

john kactuz, correct me if I am wrong, you seem a person who is pacifist and anti-war. Is that the case, are you against wars that America has waged?

Mr. Kactuz:

Yes, there are a very small minority of extremist, misguided Muslims that do very wicked, evil, and vile things. HOWEVER, there have been many, many condemnations, repudiations, and criticisms from Islamic scholars (including through fatwas), and lay people alike saying that what they are doing is totally, 100% haraam (impermissible), unIslamic, unethical, immoral, etc. These very misguided, extremist Muslims have been said to have deviant, evil, unIslamic beliefs that are totally incompatible with the true message of Islam by these various Islamic scholars that have denounced these extremists. With all due respect, you would have to be blind, ignorant, or a combination of both to not know that these extremist, misguided Muslims have been severely repudiated and refuted to the utmost by many Islamic scholars. Some of these Muslim scholars have said that these misguided Muslim extremists are the “khawarij,” and therefore have even insinuated or flat-out articulated that Muslims have a duty to kill and destroy them. And ironically, many of these same Islamic scholars that I have been talking about, are often themselves called “extremists,” “terrorists,” “terrorist supporters,” “evil,” and many times “Wahhabi” terrorists, or any combination of these by mainstream non-Muslim Americans, non-Muslim so-called “experts” and other westerners.

John: ““I am make victorious with terror”?”

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Allah made me victorious by awe…”
there is a difference…

John, it seems that you have been thoroughly brainwashed by Jihadwatch or some other Islamophobic outfit out there. So, either (a) your interest is only to flame this thread and then take glee in ‘getting back’ at Muslims or (b) you are sincerely interested in having a serious discussion.

For (a), I am sorry I can’t help you. There are enough of your types all around that it is getting relatively boring.

For (b), I would ask you to start by reading this book: Holy Wars…Crusades…Jihad by Jalal Abualrub or ask intelligent questions. You cannot start to question history without first reading the history of Christian-oriented bloodbaths during the Crusades. Once you are a little more educated than your internet-read of Tabari, I am sure we will be able to engage you in a more intellectual fashion.

Mr. Kactuz:

I have a follow up point. I had articulated that there are obviously many, many Muslim scholars (and lay people alike) that have severely, totally and unequivocally denounced Muslim extremists, calling their actions evil, unIslamic, immoral, going against the religion of Islam, etc.

I have something to ask you, and other non-Muslim critics of Islam and/or Muslims.

Have you or your reverends or priests or rabbis EVER condemned or critiqued the 1995 massacre of around 8,000 Bosnian Muslim men and boys in Srebrenica, committed by Serbian Christians?

Have you or your reverends or priests or rabbis EVER condemned or critiqued the many, many, many despicable, evil, and heinous massacres, killings, rapes, and general ethnic cleansing that have been committed by the Russian Christians against the Muslims of Chechnya, for over 300 years?

Have you or your reverends or priests or rabbis EVER condemned or critiqued the Jewish Israeli killing, massacres, and destruction of Lebanon in the summer of 2006 that resulted in over 1,000 innocent Lebanese Muslim civilians being slaughtered? Have you or your reverends or priests or rabbis ever condemned or critiqued for that matter, the invasion of Lebanon by the Jewish Israelis in 1982 that resulted in the killing of around 20,000 Lebanese Muslim civilians? Or the despicable massacre, and rape of around 2,000 or so innocent Muslim Palestinian civilians in Sabra and Shatilla, committed by the Christian Lebanese Phalange, with the very direct support, encouragement, and help of the Jewish Israeli military, including by the certified zionist Israeli war criminal, Ariel Sharon?

Have you or your reverends or priests or rabbis EVER condemned or critiqued the many, many heinous, barbaric massacres, killings, and ethnic cleansing committed by the Jewish zionist/Israelis in Palestine, against the native Muslims for over 50 years? Have you or your reverends or priests or rabbis EVER condemned or critiqued all of this murder, evil, and mayhem as many, many Christians (especially, but not exclusively, the dispensationalist Protestant ones) and Jews say is done in the name of Judeo-Christian “zionism?”

Have you or your reverends or priests or rabbis EVER condemned or critiqued the Judeo-Christian American (and other Judeo-Christian western coalition “partners of the willing”) 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq, that has resulted in the repulsive, evil, and barbaric murder of at least 500,000 innocent Muslim Iraqi civilians? (note - these Iraqi civilian estimates were reported by very highly esteemed, well respected, well educated western non-Muslim physicians and scientists, and they have stressed that these estimates are on the low end) On a similar note, have you or your reverends or priests or rabbis ever condemned or critiqued the 1990s western “Judeo-Christian” zionist-centric American-UK embargo of Iraq that resulted in the killing and genocide of at least 500,000 innocent Iraqi civilians (some say up to one million), including MOSTLY children? (as reported by many western non-Muslim humanitarian organizations and officials, including former UN officials who had resigned directly as a result of what they had termed a “genocide”)

Mr. Kactuz, I believe that we Muslims should definitely, without a doubt, look into the mirror, to totally be honest and frank with ourselves, including the good and the bad, but at the same time, should not Christians, Jews, Judeo-Christians, zionists, or westerners ALSO do the same? It is my opinion that most Christians, Jews, Judeo-Christians, zionists, or westerners that are always saying how bad, evil, or violent Islam or Muslims are, are NOT at all looking in the mirror.

As-Salaamu ‘alaikum,

I converted to Islam three years (and a couple of months) before 9/11 and I noticed that the community sh. Bin Bayyah is associated with were doing a lot of work before then. They were trying to steer people away from sectarianism and were attracting British Asians who were sick of Bareilawi/Deobandi politics and needed religious guidance in English and not Urdu. They were very active and commonly appeared in the English-language Muslim media, particularly Q-News. This has, of course, grown vastly since then with the rise of the Internet and blogs.

Shaikh Hamza Yusuf said in one of his lectures that the western colonisers and their Muslim clients did away with traditional Islamic education in the Muslim world by infiltrating or suppressing the madrassas. The last one, he said, closed in Marrakesh in the early 1960s. This is a major reason why the moderate, traditional path is unpopular and has less of a profile than the Shi’ism promoted by Khomeini, the type of “Salafism” promoted by the Saudis and the type kept afloat by anger at the Saudis and distrust of any scholar who is not anti-government. I am uneasy about the government-funded “Radical Middle Way” programme in the UK, because it makes the movement look like part of a government attempt to control the community by funding one group of (mostly middle-class) Muslims without addressing any of the community’s problems or grievances. There is a long history of movements losing credibility once they are shown to have government or intelligence community backing.

By the way, I would advise that comments from the likes of John Kactuz are suppressed here. They add nothing, and only serve to side-track discussion, as has happened with this thread. I advised a brother recently that I did not read the comments on his blog, because they are usually full of garbage from blindly hostile non-Muslims, and that I moderate them out on my own.

Agreed, Br. Yusuf. If Mr Kactuz posts anything that resembles what he posted before, then we will be sure of his intentions. At that point garbage will go where all garbage should go… to the trash-bin. -MM

It is no coincidence that the orientalists have chosen to translate into English works such as Tarikh al-Tabari while neglecting and deliberately ignoring other works which shed light on the life of the Prophet. In fact, they have deliberately tried to marginalize sources like Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim which Muslims regard to be authoritative and superior in authenticity to the works of the Sirah. Al-Tabari, on the other hand, intended to gather in his history all the claims that are made and related, true, false, and fabricated.

For the orientalists to rely on such narrations, actually to cherrypick the narrations which seem to cast Islam and its teachings in the worst light, while knowing full well that Muslims do not accept such narrations as authoritative is indicative of their desire to distort the image of Islam. I highly encourage you to read Dr. Muhammad Mohar Ali’s 2-volume work “Biography of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) and the Orientalists” found in PDF form here:

http://islamhouse.com/books.php?page=eb4558ad6c717572901492e304d07531

http://islamhouse.com/books.php?page=59872249b8c6abc16ab0c0cc944ffdf6

This is my reply to the accusation above….

So I preach hate, do I? That statement by itself is meaningless. A better analysis would be to determine what a person hates and why?

Is it hate if its true? For example, if I say that the Mongols invaded ancient Iraque and murdered hundreds of thousands and destroyed a great civilization, or that the crusaders slaughtered people in Jerusalem until they were ankle deep in blood, or that the American Calvary massacred innocent Indians at Wounded Knee or that Mormons killed helpless immigrants at Mountains Meadows, or that Turks killed hundreds of thousands of Armenians in the early 1900s or the Nazis killed millions of Jews and other peoples, or Stalin starved millions of Russians to death in the 1930s or that the Jews massacred innocents at a village called Deir Yassin in 1948…. Is this hate? No, of course not. It is truth.

What if I deny any or all of these? What is it? It is dishonesty. These are all facts, uncontestable facts. What if a person denies the truth? It is not just dishonesty, it is deception. It is a statement that the lives of men, women and children mean nothing. It means that a person accepts and approves the evil that was done to those innocent victims. This means that that person is also evil and cannot be trusted.

Can we agree on this? Do you have any problem with this argument?

So the question then is ‘what is truth?’. Does the Quran say things that lead to hate and violence against non-Muslims? Do the ahadith tell stories of vile, evil actions by Islam and its followers? These are relevant, important questions. Talking about these things is not hate. It is a search for truth.

I will be the first to say that the Quran says some nice things. The prose is lacking in style and the language is often ambiguous, but those are my minor issues in my opinion. The problem is that there is a subcontext throughout the book that says that non-Muslims are, in principle, evil, vile and traitorous. Worse yet, in many passages, the Quran clearly urges and permits discrimination and violence against infidels. Now let’s talk about Islam’s great prophet. The hadith indicate that Mohammed was politically astute, an inspiring leader, a quick thinker, articulate, a very good strategic general and very determined. It also shows that Mohammed had a sense of humor and notions of justice. I also understand that he was not gay! Now the bad part. The hadith also clearly state that Mohammed and his men raided dozens of villages and caravans, plundered, murdered, tortured, enslaved and raped. The traditions also say that Mohammed beat his own wife. Now all of these are grievous, repulsive acts, so one must be sure that these can be found in the hadiths. In fact, given the seriousness of these things, it is better not to rely on one writer or a single story. To take them seriously, they must be found in multiple accounts by different authors. Is this not right? Just as wicked as these things are would be to defame an innocent man. Do you agree?

I know Muslims don’t like the last few lines above, but be patient and honest. These things are important, so if we like them or not is relevant. What is relevant is what these things mean and their consequences.

So what does the Quran say about non-Muslims? It says fight (qaatiloo) them until they are subdued and humbled (4:47, 9:29, 8:39) , to be harsh to them (9:123), to strike terror into them (48:29, 8:59-60) , to slay (aqtuloohum) them (2:191, 4:86, 4:89, 4:91, 9:5) , to smite (darba) them and capture them (47:4). It also says not to take them as friends (al-Ma’idah 5:51) and that infidels are cursed, to be seized and slain (33:61). It declares that non-Muslims are irreconcilable enemies (al-Baqarah 2:113), ignorant (ummiun) and do not know Scripture (59:13, al-Baqarah 2:78, al-Ma’idah 5:64, al-Baqarah 2:75), perverted and distort things (al-Baqarah 2:75; an-Nisa’ 4:46; al-Ma’idah 5:13,41) and so on…. There are dozens of verses, maybe hundreds, that directly or indirectly, softly or harshly, teach hate and violence against non-Muslims. Or maybe cutting off their fingertips (8:12-13) or crucifying (5:33)
infidels for offending Muslims is not evil.

Now lets talk about Islam’s great prophet, a man Muslims consider to be a great moral example. The acts and sayings of Muhammad are found in the hadiths (or ahadith, plural). Here is what Muslim authorities say about these:
1. To be a true Muslim, the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (…) must be followed. The sources of information about the Sunnah are found in Hadith…” ( from http://english.islamway.com/bindex.php?section=article&id=141)
2. “This thorough authentication process ensures that these accounts (the Hadiths) are real, validated narrations of the sayings, actions, and tacit approvals of the Prophet Muhammad. (from http://thetruereligion.org/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=106)

Now lets look at Mohammed and his life: Quote: Ibn ‘Aun reported: …The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) made a raid upon Banu Mustaliq while they were unaware and their cattle were having a drink at the water. He killed those who fought and imprisoned others. On that very day, he captured Juwairiya bint al-Harith. Muslim Book 019, Number 4292 - also in Bukhari). (http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/019.smt.html#019.4321
Quote : “The military expeditions (Ghazawat, literally raid) in which the Messenger personally participated were twenty-six. Some say there were twenty-seven.” Tabari IX:118 “The armies and raiding parties sent by the Messenger of Allah between the time he came to Medina and his death (ten years) was forty-eight.” Tabari IX:115. The accounts tell of the plunder and taking slaves, of giving captured women to the Prophet’s men. The writer was especially proud of the raids where the caravans and villages were taken by surprise. I was reading Abu Dawud and it states that Mohammed liked to attack villages in the morning. It said if he heard a prayer or saw a mosque, he would turn back. Otherwise he would attack, plunder, enslave and kill. And Muslims’ write “Peace be upon Him” after this man’s name?

And then there is the cold-blooded murder of Mohammed’s critics, including old men, girls, poets and even young mothers and pregnant women. Consider the Case of Asma Marwan, killed while nursing a child because of a few verses satirizing the prophet. And how about this revolting act, recording by Mohammed’s own followers:
Finally, please consider this incident: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/abudawud/038.sat.html#038.4348.
Note that it is from a Muslim site at the University of California. I really don’t need to comment on the content of the link. Read it! And Muslims are offended by cartoons! Here is another Islamic source that proudly lists the people killed by Islam’s prophet: http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/alshifa/pt4ch1sec1.htm. Their crime? Criticizing murder and oppression – for this they were killed.

Consider the cases of Raihana Bint Amr and Safiya / Safiyyah, slave women taken by Mohammed. The hadiths say that Mohammed killed Safiyyah’s husband, father and brother the night before he wed her. Hey, doesn’t the Quran say that a widow must wait 4 months to re-marry? Yeah, right. Have you wonder about all the exceptions granted by Allah to his own rules? Rather suspicious! Note also that in the case of Juwairiya (mentioned above, of Banu Mustaliq) Mohammad’s men were about to rape the captives and they asked him if they should practice coitus interruptus. The prophet said go ahead and not to worry…. And so on The problem is that all these vile acts (murder, torture, rape, slavery, etc…) are permitted in the Quran. Even people that don’t like Islam’s prophet must admit that he practiced what be preached. He was consistent.

From the start to finish, from the Quran to the hadiths, Islamic writings are full of hate, anger, oppression, violence and murder. From Ibn Ishaq and al-Tabari to Bukhari and Ibn Hisham the early stories of Muhammad and Islam are full of vile, evil events. It is not one, two or ten verses, or one or two sources. It is hundreds of verses and many different writers, including Islam’s most respected authors, in page after page. In fact, Ibn Hisham wrote in his biography of Mohammud that that he “omitted things which are disgraceful to discuss and matters which would distress certain people.” (Ishaq: 691). This posting is already long, so I won’t give the references of torture and wife-beating (unless you think I made them up and want me to prove it).

Is this hate? What I write are facts. The only real question is if the hate and violence we see today among Muslims is linked to the hate and violence in the Quran and ahadith. Take a wild guess. The fact is that the only Muslims that are honest about these things are the so-called radicals. They kill and hate and justify it in the Quran and hadith. The moderates, like people here, deny these things and pretend the hate and violence have nothing to do with Islam.

Shame on you for your denial and deceit. Why do you hate the countless victims of Islam-sanctioned violence? Do you think they deserved to die? Did men, women and children deserved to be enslaved by your dear prophet? Did he have a right to rob and plunder their possessions? Is rape of married captive women Allah’s gift to his followers (4:24 ), as it says in the Quran? And so on. Why do you hate these innocent people so much that their lives and suffering mean nothing to you? You are a true follower of the prophet.

John Q Kactuz

PS - From todays news: Sheik Ahmad Bahr, acting Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council, declared during a Friday sermon at a Sudan mosque that America and Israel will be annihilated and called upon Allah to kill Jews and Americans “to the very Last One.” And they call it “religion of peace”

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